It's the plaaaaaague!
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It's July 1st. Let the "Plagues and Pandemics" discussion begin!
I'll be posting some questions/prompts for discussion over the next month, at least one a week and hopefully a bit more than that. If anyone else has points for discussion, please feel free to post with them. I am responsible for making sure *some* discussion posts happen, but I'm happy to share!
For now I'd like to open up with something very general:
What have you noticed are the main similarities and differences between the various plague stories you've read?
What impressions did you get regarding the author's historical research? How do you think the author's understanding of the period in question affected the way the story was told?
I'll be posting some questions/prompts for discussion over the next month, at least one a week and hopefully a bit more than that. If anyone else has points for discussion, please feel free to post with them. I am responsible for making sure *some* discussion posts happen, but I'm happy to share!
For now I'd like to open up with something very general:
What have you noticed are the main similarities and differences between the various plague stories you've read?
What impressions did you get regarding the author's historical research? How do you think the author's understanding of the period in question affected the way the story was told?
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Date: 2009-07-02 02:35 am (UTC)Similarities: this is blindingly obvious, really, but all the protagonists are survivors. I was really moved by the medieval chronicler quoted in "Doomsday Book" who watched and documented everyone around him die, then died himself. I recognise the writerly difficulty of writing someone who dies at the end of the book, but there's a part of me that would've liked to read it. Perhaps I should go dig up that medieval account?
Differences: genre, mostly. I've got a factual-sounding account that's only faintly fictional (JotPY), a straight historical (YOW), a YA historical (F1793), and a time travel book with a modern protagonist experiencing the Black Death (DB). I have Hambly's "Fever Season" out from the library, and that's a mystery. I found that the genre conventions were what made the stories stand out most, even more than the historical era in which they were set (1340s, 1660s, 1790s).
Wrt historical research and the author's understanding of the plague/pandemic they're writing about... the main thing I've noticed is that modern authors, who understand the germ theory of infection, have a great deal of trouble avoiding showing their knowledge, even if just by pointing at the historical characters and smirking behind their hand. O'Brian was probably the most obnoxious about this, with all his stuff about Stephen avoiding "miasmas", and Willis was probably the least, in that her protagonist was modern and didn't have that problem. She did have the issue of translating her understanding to the medieval people she was staying with, in ways they'd understand, but I thought it was done fairly sensitively (both internally to the story, in eternally wrt how Willis wrote it for our consumption).
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Date: 2009-07-02 07:52 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-07-02 06:27 pm (UTC)This is an effect of a plague, historically, to divide people, to isolate them from one another, from fear of death and fear of violence and predation.
This is so for both Journal and for Fever Season, but in such very different ways, if only because one is fiction and the other is journalism on the spot.
Knowing New Orleans and its traditions very well, Hambley's Fever Season, which was her second Benjamin January-New Orleans work, her research is always declaring itself loudly. She hadn't lived with the place and the material long enough to have internalized the milieu, so it was flat reading. You saw her period map of the city open next to her keyboard.
However, in terms of Fever Season, that January could make an alliance with a white man in authority made some sense. However, in reality, it was the Americans in that era post the Louisiana Purchase, who instituted the strict and rigid and relentless separation of race, and the declaration that any one with 'one drop,' was a n*gger, no matter what. These matters were seen very differently by the Americans, who were protestants, than by the older, European tradition Catholic 'creole' population, whether white or colored, slave or free.
Love, C.
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Date: 2009-07-04 04:16 pm (UTC)A couple of things I noticed across books:
- The idea of a pandemic as an almost supernatural occurance, striking where, when and whom it chooses and completely out of human control.
- Related, the battle of humans and technology against disease.
- All three books layed down moral judgements, JotPY and DB against those fleeing the plague who brought it with them, and GI againt the public health officials who lied about the extent of the pandemic to tone down the panic.